How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Have you ever been a victim of gaslighting? What happened?

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

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Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

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ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

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Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

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Sain (a barber)

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

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ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

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I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

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Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

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We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

I am like a fish out of water,

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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then who is there to know what happens without?

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

NOW…

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

CONCLUSION:

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Kabir (a weaver)

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Now here in this verse

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.